but, you know, looking at discretionary budget, looking at taxing at our tax policy, there's a lot that can be done right now and we want to provide some of those options. >> some people say the results of sequestration, it's actually not a bad thing. because it will sort of focus our priorities, getting the country's debt and deficit under control. what do you think about that? >> well, sequestration cuts the good along with the bad. not everything government does is wasteful. not everything government does is good. go after the wasteful first, go after the policies which we know don't achieve the goals they were set out to meet. we don't think sequestration -- sequestration was set up as a threat, such a horrible threat that it would force congress to act and hasn't forced congress to act yet. we hope it will in the lame duck, that they'll take thoughtful steps by going after wasteful programs first. >> you're right. it hasn't gotten them to act yet. ryan, good to talk to you. thanks so much. >> thanks so much for having us. >> see you soon. "fast money" begins at the top of the hour.